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Listen to an explanation of where some feel NCT is headed, what it's future is:
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Is it important whether NCT is paedobaptist or credobaptist; infant baptism or believer baptism, respectively. Under the OC circumcision brought the child into membership in the church, while under the NC, believer baptism or credobaptism, leaves the child out except for child dedications. Is this an important point??? Especially when the paedobaptist position was sexist, and only addressed the male child. (See this discussion):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_baptism
Last edited by bob_2 (03-18-10 10:47 pm)
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Interesting, SDAs are credobaptist (believer baptism) and this issue is not an issue for them. If the parents are believers, the credobaptists, believe their children would be saved if their life would be lost before they became believers and baptized. There is no command to baptize infants in the NC, just like there is no command to keep a Sabbath day. Should we make up some doctrine, like Reformed Churches (Presbyterians and RCC) do, that infant baptism or sprinkling takes the place in the NC of circumcision in the OC. There is no authority to do that under the NC. Why do Reformed Churches and the RCC feel so strongly about this point while credobaptist churches like the SDAs and Baptists see no big deal???
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"The dangers of being a credobaptist "
http://swinder16.blogspot.com/2006/04/d … ptist.html
WOW, and SDAs are accused of "majoring in minors"!!!! Or do our children's salvation depend on this doctrine??
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"Baby Dedication Ceremonies: Expediency or Innovation?"
http://www.christiancourier.com/article … innovation
Have we by creating Baby Dedication with no Bible authority, copied those that Infant Baptize???
This is not the big issue that most are declaring the Reformation not over, but through the issues of NCT and the progressive thought behind this exegesis of the whole Word, pulling the whole Redemption story together. Some have attempted it with Covenant Theology, but fail at being Solo Scriptura in the process. NCT has accomplished this goal more completely, IMO, and those of a growing number who are studying the scriptures and covenants closer.
Therefore, the NCT must stay credobaptist (believer baptism). Some may argue the lack of necessity of Baby Dedications.
Last edited by bob_2 (03-18-10 11:14 pm)
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Surely, any church would welcome new parents to dedicate their baby and promise to raise her in the Christian tradition.
It IS NOT BAPTISM. Only because it is done in infancy, can someone call it baptism; just as circumcision is usually done in infancy, also, but it is not a choice that a child can make anymore than dedication is an infant's choice, but the promise of the parents.
Baptism is a decision made by a child who is able to understand the importance of the event and what it entails. In many churches, she must study the catechism or the doctrines of the particular church and choose to abide by those.
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Elaine, my point was not, nor those I have quoted, was not what was "welcoming", but what is Biblical, Solo Scriptura. Your basis of "welcoming" opens the flood gates to men' inventions. NCT is Biblically based. This is where this thread is going.
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