Hospital Salaries (Again)

don · 12-31-09 11:58 pm

Hospital Adminstrator Salaries (Again) <a href="http://www.atoday.com/files/uploads/Don_Jernigan.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/messages/6/2372.jpg" alt=""></a> (Click on picture for source document) <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Biggest "nonprofit" salary disclosed: Adventist Health CEO Don Jernigan's $3.5 million. Yes, Florida Hospital's parent company may be a "faith-based nonprofit," but that doesn't mean it's not profitable to work there. Tax records for this tax-exempt group showed that at least seven Adventist execs had annual packages worth more than $1 million. And Jernigan's $3.5 million was more than the top administrators of the famed Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins Health System made … combined. <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-scott-maxwell-friday-files-010110-20091231%2C0%2C6613144.column" target=_top>http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/os-scott-maxwell-friday-files-010110-20091231,0,6613144.column</a><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>______________________________ Further Reading <a href="http://www.atoday.com/content/sentinel-publishes-updated-adventist-hospital-executive-compensation" target=_top>http://www.atoday.com/content/sentinel-publishes-updated-adventist-hospital-executive-compensation</a> 1997, Sabbath School Lessons: Healing and Restoration, The Master's Touch Don Jernigan one of the listed authors of the lessons. <a href="http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/SS/SS19971001-04__C/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4" target=_top>http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/SS/SS19971001-04__C/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=4</a> 2008, Called to Community: Adventist Health System Hosts 18th Annual Conference on Mission <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:More than 200 delegates attended Adventist Health System's 18th annual Conference on Mission, held February 28 through March 1 in Lake Mary, Fla. Delegates to the conference included leaders from Adventist Health System facilities, as well as representatives from Seventh-day Adventist churches, conferences, and colleges. The conference centered on the theme of "Doing Good and Doing Well." "Mission is the core of our existence, and we take the responsibility of enhancing mission very seriously," said Donald Jernigan, Ph.D., president and CEO of Adventist Health System. <a href="http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/SUW/SUW20080401-V100-04__C/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=8" target=_top>http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/SUW/SUW20080401-V100-04__C/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=8</a><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> 2006, Whole Person Health Care by Gordon Retzer, Southern Union President <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Adventist Health System (AHS) is the largest not-for-profit Protestant health care organization in the United States. It includes 38 hospitals and 24 nursing homes in ten states, totaling 6,200 beds, and it takes more than 44,000 employees to care for four mil- lion patients annually. Many of these hospitals are in the Southern Union, and I praise the Lord for the positive influence derived by the Seventh- day Adventist Church because of our Donjemigan health ministry. Employees, patients, and family members come to know about God and the witness of the Seventh-day Adventist message through Adventist Health System. Recently, Terry Shaw, chief financial officer for AHS, was sharing with me that, when he meets each year with all the bankers who do business with AHS (some 80 bankers), he always shares the mission of AHS, "to extend the healing ministry of Christ," before getting into any business. He talks about the difference of having Jesus save us from our sins, and he shares that because he honors the seventh-day Sabbath, he has a 24-hour period each week to get closer to God and his family. He told me he has answered many questions about the Sabbath. Since 1999 Tom Werner has been president of AHS, and has recently announced his retirement. The Lord has helped AHS to expand and to become financially strong under his leadership. Tom has taught a Sabbath school class for many years at the Florida Hospital church, and his wife, Sharon, was the church secretary. Tom has been intentional about making certain that all employees and physicians know the mission of AHS and agree to foster that mission. And, he has ensured that the health-care ministry of Adventist Health System is aligned with the mission of the Church. Don Jernigan has been elected to serve as the new president of AHS. He currently serves as the chief executive officer of Florida Hospital and the Florida Division of AHS. He formerly served as chief executive officer of the Multistate Hospital Division of AHS, president of Tennessee Christian Medical Center in Nashville and president of Metro- plex Hospital in Killeen, Texas. Don has a Ph.D. in physical chemistry from Baylor University and a B.S. in chemistry from the University of Texas. While living in Texas, Don and his wife, Sharon, formerly faithful Baptists, joined the Seventh-day Adventist Church and are very involved in their local church. Don teaches a Sabbath school class at Winter Springs church in Orlando, and Sharon di- rects the choir and is worship/music leader for the church. Don is unequivocal about the need to make certain that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the sponsor of all Adventist hospitals, and he has an initiative to increase the number of Seventh-day Adventist employees in our hospitals. He will continue the leadership legacy that has maintained a strong Adventist Christian mission focus in Adventist Health System. Much of Jesus' ministry focused on healing-on whole-person healing. That's what AHS is all about-not just excellent, cutting edge medicine, but caring for the soul and the heart and the mind. To learn more about the mission of Adventist Health System and to see mission stories, go to <a href="http://www.ahss.org" target=_top>www.ahss.org</a>, and you'll be inspired. <a href="http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/SUW/SUW20060401-V98-04/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=2" target=_top>http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/SUW/SUW20060401-V98-04/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=2</a><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> Comments<blockquote>Florida Hospital is presented as a witness for Christ and the Gospel in a complex world of hospital service. Is the amount Adventists pay their CEO's affecting their witness for Christ? How? Should Adventists be concerned? Is it fair to ask if Don Jernigan can tell us how he manages the $3.5 million a year for Christ? Should any of us who work for the church feel it a duty to explain how we use our "take home" pay to further the Gospel? What about believers who don't get paid by the church? Should everyone view their income as a "talent" to be invested for God?</blockquote> (Message edited by Don on December 31, 2009)

cadge · 01-01-10 6:03 am

...."because of our Donjemigan health ministry". This is supposed to be saying "because of our Don Jernigan health ministry,right? "Jernigan's $3.5 million was more than the top administrators of the famed Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins Health System made … combined." Well, leave it to the chemist to get the formula right.<img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/proud.gif" border=0>

don · 01-01-10 7:27 am

...."because of our Donjemigan health ministry". lol I think what happened: a picture of Don Jernigan had his name under as a caption. I didn't discover it. So it reads "Donjemigan health ministry." <IMG SRC="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> Actually, Don Jernigan comes across as a sincere, humble guy with a health ministry. And when you look over the number of hospitals and employees and doctors, etc. (and by extension, patients) under his management care, 3.5 million takes on a different proportion. The story could have been (after different choices): Top administrator returns millions to help patients in need of health care. *smile* It could have; things happen. Of course, who knows how Jernigan has learned to sleep at night. We have come a long way from using our last (personal) penny to further the Gospel enterprise. There is another story to examine, here: Don Jernigan used to be Baptist. When did he become an Adventist? Did his job as an Administrator of an Adventist hospital convince him to become an Adventist. Also, Jernigan has been active in promoting spiritual values in a hospital setting. (As administrator of Tennessee Christian Medical Center at Madison.) In doing so, he has led the way in an interfaith approach kind of avant-garde within Adventism. Hmmm. Are these other Christians in Babylon? or? How should Adventists manage their "radical" prophetic understandings with the reality of day to day cooperation? People, yours truly included, prefer the 'generous' approach to life than the 'negative prophetic'. (Notice I have made a distinction between 'prophetic' and 'negative prophetic'. If the 'prophet' cries out about a 'fire' in the building, is he being negative or positive.) (Message edited by Don on January 01, 2010)

cadge · 01-01-10 9:23 am

"lol I think what happened: a picture of Don Jernigan had his name under as a caption. I didn't discover it. So it reads "Donjemigan health ministry." :-)" ----- Ha,ha, I can see where that could happen. I'm gonna go with you on that one, Don. But on the rest? I think you missed your calling. You should have been a lawyer or a Union official. <img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/happy.gif" border=0>

don · 01-01-10 10:00 am

You should have been a lawyer or a Union official. I have thought about Law but don't think I could pass the logic questions on the LSAT. <IMG SRC="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":-(" BORDER=0> Union official? I don't think so. My life is not orthodox enough. At least not where its measured. But, I do have a strong regard for people. One of my enjoyable past times is to go someplace where there are people crowded everywhere and watch. New Year's Eve, New Year's Levee, a community board meeting of some sort, the foyer of my church as church lets out... Happy New Year to All Should I make a list, a set of resolutions. I am not saved by works; why bother. <IMG SRC="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> Why not go bird watching? Start a year list? Why? Who Cares? Start the day, the year with a clean slate... Sounds nice... Just a construct of the mind... My son and I were talking about a movie I had just watched, i.e. Nothing But the Truth. A powerful movie but it had a few points I couldn't, or wouldn't show in class. "I don't want to be responsible for corrupting young minds..." What is corruption? He asks. Well? Any ideas. Has my mind been corrupted by discussions with atheists? I will never be the same again... <IMG SRC="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":-(" BORDER=0> What saith the atheists? What saith my fellow believers; of whatever stripe? (Message edited by Don on January 01, 2010)

elaine · 01-01-10 10:40 am

Don Jernigan comes across as a sincere, humble guy with a health ministry. And when you look over the number of hospitals and employees and doctors, etc. (and by extension, patients) under his management care, 3.5 million takes on a different proportion. Don, how can you possibly justify Jernigan's salary when it is more than twice the salary of the CEOs of both John Hopkins and Mayo's which are rated the top medical institutions in the U.S., far above Florida Hospital? It does compare very favorably with the Wall Street Jackals.

don · 01-01-10 11:11 am

how can you possibly justify Jernigan's salary when it is more than twice the salary of the CEOs of both John Hopkins and Mayo's which are rated the top medical institutions in the U.S., far above Florida Hospital? Elaine, look at it from a secular, no divine judge point of view. Don't compare to the Mayo Clinic or John Hopkins; Rather, compare to some other Health-care conglomerates. 38 Hospitals. This job is not a Mayo Clinic or John Hopkins type of job. How many people depend on his expertise? How many administrators, doctors, nurses, employees? 44 000 employees. Four million patients annually. That is simply a dollar a patient for his expertise. Where would all these people be if these institutions were mismanaged and crashed? Its kind of like a hockey player who signs a contract for 45 million dollars over six years. But then again, I would rather pay a capable manager 3.5 million to keep top notch health care afloat. Keep in mind, I am merely pointing out proportions; I am not justifying. <IMG SRC="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":-)" BORDER=0> And, (if there is no god, or even if there is.); who is to say that a man who can lead such a collection of institutions to save the lives of hundreds of thousands should not be paid the going rate. Now, on a more somber note... One thing that is difficult to do, is for the Adventist church to teach sacrificial ministry in the light of all this. .

jag · 01-03-10 10:19 pm

I am astonished that anyone can even try to justify such an inflated salary. I guess it's about 100 times more than an average US salary, if I am correct. Is his stomach 100 bigger? I do understand that this is a position with responsibility, but for such a salary I would be willing to take it too, and I would also convert to Adventism/Islam/Hinduism/atheism or whatever was required.

don · 01-04-10 1:58 am

I am astonished that anyone can even try to justify such an inflated salary. Yes. I posted the original information because I was quite surprised at the amount especially when compared to John Hopkins and the Mayo Clinic combined. What looks like "justifying" on my part is simply looking at the possible ways of viewing such a reality. Adventism, at least Adventist hospital administration, is not the enterprise of the early 1900's, or late 1800's. Though much of what we see now seems to be more in line with Kellogg's approach to medicine than others. Kellogg focused on the needs of the wealthy. Modern Adventist Hospital Systems seem to be business enterprises buying and selling hospitals outright based on their viability or lack thereof. The recent sale of Paradise Valley illustrates the change that has come to Adventism. I wonder if anyone has ever considered having the successful Adventist hospitals propping up Adventist enterprises which serve a community but run into financial troubles? Adventism's sanitarium (hospital) system has often focused on serving the elite rather than the poor. I'm sure that exceptions can be found. But, the tension surrounding Adventist hospital indigent service has historical roots. (This is not true regarding clinics, I don't think. Many stories of free clinic services can be found in the archives of Adventist work in "mission lands".) .

hansen · 01-04-10 4:10 am

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Many poor people rage against the rich. The fact that the poor are usually less intelligent, less hard working, less lucky, less wise, less talented, that's our problem, not the problem of the rich. Many of us peons justify our poverty, which is really our own fault, by thinking of Paul or Jesus. As if we are poor because of preaching the gospel or being on a holy mission. Fiddle! Most of us are poor because we are dumb! Get over it. I'd take a million dollar salary if I could get one.

jag · 01-04-10 4:58 am

Glenn, I totally disagree that people are poor because they are "less intelligent, less hard working ... less wise, less talented. In most cases it is not. Sometimes they are indeed less lucky. Often they are simply more ruthless and likely to be corrupt. Often they simply had richer parents, therefore poverty can be hereditary. It is a problem of us all. It's the ruthless capitalism we see everywhere that led us to this. It is now time for the society to take the matter into their own hands and to even up the differences. Everyone should keep shouting about things like this. (Message edited by Jag on January 04, 2010)

hansen · 01-04-10 8:31 am

Richer parents? Why weren't peons smart enough to take advantage of the opportunities to improve themselves? Stupidity, that's why. That may be inherited.

elaine · 01-04-10 2:40 pm

Overlooking the factor of poor, impoverished education of parents can limit their children's success. Children growing up in homes with no books, no one reading to them (both parents struggling to make ends meet) and not emphasizing the importance of education are all factors conditioning their children for the future. That is not always true as there is often a child in such families who is able to rise above her surroundings. But those are the exceptions and today with so many jobless, it is not because they are either stupid or dumb but there are no jobs available. Think: it's the economy, stupid.

elaine · 01-04-10 2:52 pm

Don Jernigan was formerly with the Tennessee Christian Medical Center which does not even begin to sound comparable to his present position: Tennessee Christian Medical Center Center for Addictions 500 Hospital Drive Madison TN 37115 Phone: (615) 865-0300 ext. 4751 Hotline: (615) 860-0426

elaine · 01-04-10 2:55 pm

Metro-Plex Hospital described: SHORT TERM SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES Jernigan's professional hospital experience seems several bricks short of a load.

elaine · 01-04-10 2:57 pm

Wonder what his salary was at those first two institutions compared to Florida Hospitals magnanimous pay? Did his conversion to Adventism have nothing to do with his sudden promotion? Just asking.

carol_fowler · 01-04-10 5:28 pm

I would love to know the story of his conversion. That would be interesting. My family lived in Madison when TCMC was still Madison Hospital (but changed to TCMC while we were still there), my daughter was born at Madison Hospital, I worked there for a few years, and my better half worked at Madison Academy. My daughter later took piano lessons from Don's wife, Sharon. She also taught music at the elementary school there. She was absolutely lovely and was a wonderful teacher. Her music programs were delightful and charming. I didn't know her on a personal level, but I thought very well of her, from what I knew. I worked at TCMC when it was a still under the Adventist umbrella and Jernigan was there. Of course, I didn't know him at all. But there just seems to be something that doesn't jive with the SDA lifestyle, or from what is preached to the regular person. I'm not at all against someone doing well, or very well for that matter. I'm not a class warfare person. But, it just doesn't fit somehow (no matter what the denomination), when someone makes a very exorbitant salary from a non-profit Christian organization. I don't think that the average person in the pews has any idea that Don Jernigan, or any of the execs, make the kind of money that they make. Once again, I'm not on a class warfare vendetta, but it doesn't feel right.

hansen · 01-04-10 8:05 pm

There is a culture of poverty which severely limits the use of opportunities in certain communities. Peer pressure, for example. Kids who try to do well may be persecuted by their peers. In some cases, they may be killed for being different, eschewing gang/criminal activity, and so forth. While the term "stupidity" is a poor choice, essentially, that's what we are talking about. The culture itself is "stupid." When kids would rather hang around on a corner smoking than study or work, that's stupid. As for Mr. Jernigan, I notice no vows of poverty when one joins Adventism. If a church with a health message can profit from Li'l Debbie, I wish Mr. Jernigan well. It's rather a cheap shot to excoriate a "brother" publicly for putting food on his table. People who have an issue with the man should communicate with him directly. To be consistent, they should also take every other millionaire Adventist physician to task as well.

elaine · 01-04-10 8:27 pm

Jernigan is probably making his millions from those ubiquitous "millionaire physicians." Having read his former credentials, they are far less than a physician, and few can reach his compensation level. His rapid rise from a very small hospital administrator to Florida Health System certainly raises questions.

jag · 01-04-10 10:02 pm

Glenn, It's not about Jernigan, it's about the sick capitalist system that allows some people to earn millions when others starve. It's a redistribution problem, and if we don't change that, sooner or later there will be another Bolshevik Revolution, and I just can't wait. Hopefully this time it will put things right.

aklym · 01-05-10 12:44 am

The capitalist system rewards risk takers, or is supposed to do so. I have no problem with that. Profit should follow risk. However, today's corporate leaders often are rewarded (or expect/demand to be rewarded) simply for having the job. They often risk very little of their own. They play with other people's money. How much do you suppose Jernigan has at risk? Today those high up on the corporate ladder believe they should receive huge bonuses even if they have failed on a massive scale. Our corporate system is corrupt as it is now constituted. All across this country poor people are routinely sent to jail for stealing food or a pack of cigarettes. Many corporate titans steal millions from their shareholders and the public and are never punished. Instead, they are lionized as "success stories." (Message edited by aklym on January 04, 2010)

hansen · 01-05-10 2:57 am

Loma Linda was founded to train medical missionaries, not fund lavish lifestyles for physicians. Since it was founded at the behest of EGW, it's fair to consider her vision when evaluating its effectiveness: Have you learned how much Dr. ------- proposes to charge for his services? If a physician does his work skillfully, his talent should be recognized, but there is danger of our being brought into perplexity. If we introduce a new system of paying our surgeons high wages, there may be a hard problem to settle after a time. Other physicians will demand high wages, and our ministers will require consideration, also.... {CH 314.1} TODAY WE MUST ENTER INTO CONSIDERATION OF SANITARIUM PROBLEMS, PARTICULARLY THE QUESTION OF THE WAGES WE SHOULD PAY TO PHYSICIANS AND SURGEONS. WE HAVE IN OUR _____ 203 SANITARIUM A GOD-FEARING PHYSICIAN WHO HAS WON THE CONFIDENCE OF ALL HIS ASSOCIATES--A MAN WHOM GOD HAS BLESSED GREATLY IN HIS MINISTRY TO THE SICK. HE WANTS TO REMAIN, AND EVERYBODY WANTS HIM TO REMAIN; AND HE FEELS THAT IT WOULD BE RIGHT FOR HIM TO REMAIN IF HIS BRETHREN COULD GRANT HIM A WAGE ABOUT TWICE AS LARGE AS THAT PAID TO OUR AVERAGE WORKERS. HE LOVES TO GIVE FREELY, AND HE WISHES TO HAVE FUNDS WITH WHICH TO LIVE AND TO USE FOR THIS PURPOSE. WE ARE MUCH PERPLEXED, AND WE WOULD BE GLAD TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY LIGHT ON THIS MATTER. {2SM 202} Statements of hers call for an equalizing of salaries between physicians and ministers. A board certified physician fresh out of school, in certain specialties, commands ~ $200,000. Should we raise ministers to even half of that or lower MD wages to half? Let's not forget the dentists, either. Few LLU graduates fulfill the purpose for which the school was erected. Many are unable because of the huge debt acquired. It's a problem but a solution could be found. Problem is reducing physician salaries would reduce tithe. Does the denomination really want to do that? Adventist medical work in America is a farce. Hardly different than that of the Jews, atheists (Kaiser), or any other denomination. (Message edited by Hansen on January 05, 2010)

hansen · 01-05-10 11:11 am

The quote above in caps is not EGW but rather a question posed to her during an interview.

elaine · 01-05-10 2:31 pm

The healthcare reform may finally achieve what other pressures were not able to. When cuts are made to both Medicare and the other governmental agencies; plus when insurers cannot refuse preexisting conditions, and cannot unduly raise premiums, some changes will occur. Currently, Medicare has been the guide. As the population ages, physicians cannot refuse Medicare as it comprises most of their practice. Because physicians are so highly indebted for their education, they usually choose one of the higher-paid specialites, and there are fewer and fewer primary care physicians who are the gatekeeper and must see patients before referring to a specialist. Why should PCPs receive less than half of those physicians performing procedures? Diagnosing is become a lost art in which PCPs must be proficient. The specialsts do not have to seek patients, as they are sent to him by the PCPs. Why should a radiologist, who seldom sees patients face-to-face, receive more than twice as much? There is such a disparity in remuneration that it is likely that the government may step in and make some adjustments.

bob_2 · 01-19-10 2:13 pm

Notice this reminder that something at Florida Hospital needs tweeking, a lot of tweeking:

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