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#51 09-29-09 2:36 pm

john8verse32
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Re: Jan Paulsen Says ‘Yes,’ They Should Resign

To speculate that all animals were vegetarians is to be unable to explain,..... <BR> <BR>...how cows and oher ruminants digested grasses...without the bacteria in their stomachs....which only live a short while, reproduce, then die.... <BR> <BR>did adams hair grow?  did his epidermis die and flake off to give him new skin every few weeks? <BR> <BR>did Eve menstruate?  and lose blood cells <BR>...gone...dead...and unfertilized eggs also dead every month? <BR> <BR>did Adam have wet dreams, and waste his little seeds...more death of living tissue? <BR> <BR>and if all animals were vegetarians,  that means they had no carnivors to worry about.... so why punish all the &#34;game&#34; animals by making grass eating lions into carnivores, making their digestive tracts and teeth evol....ah, change to allow them to eat and digest animal flesh?...just because Eve was deceived by a mystical talking snake? <BR> <BR>God even cursed the ground!!!   why punish that? <BR> <BR>isn&#39;t it far more logical to explain this legend as the ancient scientifically ignorant, superstitious nomads ways of splaining things to their kids around the campfire.


If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

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#52 09-29-09 6:55 pm

bob_2
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Re: Jan Paulsen Says ‘Yes,’ They Should Resign

<a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_Evolution_and_Cases_of_Fraud%2C_Hoaxes_and_Speculation" target=_top>http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_Evolution_a nd_Cases_of_Fraud,_Hoaxes_and_Speculation</a> <BR> <BR>Go for it John.  <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html" target=_top>http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html</a> <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/03-30-03PM_EvolutionIsAHoax.htm" target=_top>http://www.rlhymersjr.com/Online_Sermons/03-30-03P M_EvolutionIsAHoax.htm</a>

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#53 09-29-09 7:07 pm

don
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Re: Jan Paulsen Says ‘Yes,’ They Should Resign

<b><font color="0000ff">that Adam and Eve&#39;s actions brought sin and death into our world can only be substantiated by the Bible, and as the only source, should not be taught in science class,</font></b> <BR> <BR>I agree. <BR><font color="ffffff"><font size="-2">.</font></font>

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#54 09-29-09 8:19 pm

bob_2
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Re: Jan Paulsen Says ‘Yes,’ They Should Resign

I&#39;m all for John and Elaine believing how they want to. I&#39;m just for a denomination having their way at their school. No one ever said that you would go to a university, any university, and come out with your own view. I know I never thought that when I went to university, and graduate degree, I went to learn. Elaine and John I think feel you go to raise doubt in your mind. Never took a class hoping for that outcome.

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#55 09-29-09 11:08 pm

john8verse32
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Re: Jan Paulsen Says ‘Yes,’ They Should Resign

I went to learn <BR> <BR>but the way you want things to be, you would only learn what the school wanted you to know.... as determined by the church running it. <BR> <BR>so if you went to a madras because you lived in Af-gun-istan, were poor, it was free, supported by the Saudis with money they earned from oil sales so John Kerry could support his many vehicles, and Al Gore could heat his mansion,  <BR>  then all you would learn is Sharia law, and that you should kill the infidel... <BR> <BR>you would not have the chance to learn about Jesus, or evolution, or the real age of the earth, or what girls looked like under those lovely burkas. <BR> <BR>because the local religious imams would be controlling what you learned.... <BR> <BR>is that what you want for the rest of us?


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#56 09-29-09 11:31 pm

bob_2
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Re: Jan Paulsen Says ‘Yes,’ They Should Resign

Come on John, you didn&#39;t go to AUC hoping to get a secular education. English class might be a lot like your friend who went to public school, but you had friends learning with you that for the most part were Adventists with like beliefs that they might use to write an essay, without being laughed at by secular students. <BR> <BR>Math, you can learn again what has been acquired in a  Calculus text, and again, have a Christian teacher and not a bunch of secular students that maybe just are thinking about getting drunk that night at a fraternity party.  <BR> <BR>The environment you picked at AUC, you had certain expectations. If what you get is say no better than the local community college, why pay the difference.  <BR> <BR>If like the LSU problem, they are teaching evolution when you did want to know what the evolutionists had up their sleeve, knowledge wise, but as a Christian you knew that evolution would do away with Christ&#39;s life and purpose, you learn the body of knowledge of evolution, but recognize it&#39;s limitation. If you don&#39;t have teachers that teach that way, why not that local community college.

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