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#1 05-28-09 11:25 pm

bob_2
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Registered: 12-28-08
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Obama says health care changes must come this year

What is it with Obama, we must spend money this year, maybe, because next year is an election year, and the &#34;never&#34; is his not getting a second term to be able to put universal healthcare in place. <img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif" border=0> Or spend trillions more at his whim.

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#2 05-28-09 11:29 pm

elaine
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Re: Obama says health care changes must come this year

Better go back to Government 101, Bob.  Trillions on universal health care will not, nor cannot be spent on Obama&#39;s whims. Congress must decide, and plan for a long, hard, fight.  The insurance companies against the American people.

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#3 05-29-09 12:09 am

bob_2
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Re: Obama says health care changes must come this year

I&#39;m confused, how do Pelosi and Reid fit into your story???

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#4 05-29-09 8:05 am

neal
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Registered: 02-09-09
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Re: Obama says health care changes must come this year

Bob <BR> <BR>How much of your nursing home&#39;s revenue comes from Medicaid?  Medicare? <BR> <BR>How much of the debt of your nursing home is tax-free bonds? <BR> <BR>We already have socialized medicine but its restricted to the old, disabled, or poor.  The rest of us pay taxes &#40;FICA & SS&#41; to cover these socialized programs. <BR> <BR><font color="0000ff">Better go back to Government 101, Bob.</font> <BR> <BR>Amon.  He is completely clueless about the process of passing legislation in our country.

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#5 05-29-09 8:27 am

neal
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Re: Obama says health care changes must come this year

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Facility-based nursing care covers services provided in certain residential settings and accounts for one of the larger portions of Missouri Medicaid costs. In fact, <b><font color="ff0000">Medicaid pays for 66 percent of all nursing home care in the state</font></b>.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR><blockquote><a href="http://www.mffh.org/medicaidbasics.pdf" target=_top>http://www.mffh.org/medicaidbasics.pdf</a></blockquote> <BR> <BR>You suck on the government teat so much its amazing you have time to come up for air. <BR> <BR>Then, when you do take a breath, all you can muster are complaints to us CITIZENS about the involvement of government. <BR> <BR>If we took away your government payments your career would be over. <BR> <BR>Ironic.

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#6 05-29-09 11:50 am

elaine
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Re: Obama says health care changes must come this year

Until all our legislators receive only Social Security on their retirement, and no generous healthcare benefits, not their extremely generous ones now given, will we citizens see changes in both health care and retirement. <BR> <BR>Adventist Today on its website posted the HUGE <BR>salaries given its Adventist Health executives, much more than Mayo or John Hopkins&#39; CEOs.  What a wonderful job and such generous benefits--all subsidized by either the government or health insurance benefits.  Non-profit!  Ha ha!

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#7 05-29-09 11:56 am

elaine
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Re: Obama says health care changes must come this year

<b><font size="+1">Sentinel Publishes Updated Adventist Hospital Executive Compensation </font></b> <BR>Posted May 25th, 2009 by News Staff <BR>  <BR>As a follow up to the church and healthcare compensation article we published in our Sept/Oct 2008 issue comes a recent article in the Orlando Sentinel, written by a very popular columnist, disclosing updated compensation figures for several executives at Adventist Health System and Florida Hospital &#40;an Adventist-owned hospital&#41;, as well the CEO of a competing hospital system in Orlando. Here is the article or click here:  <BR> <BR>For all the stories we hear about cash-strapped health-care providers, running a nonprofit hospital can be quite, well, profitable.  <BR> <BR>Especially in Central Florida.  <BR> <BR>Take, for instance, Orlando Health CEO John Hillenmeyer, who had a compensation package worth <b><font size="+1">$858,000.</font></b>  <BR> <BR>If it sounds high, it is - even compared with the national average for big-city hospitals.  <BR> <BR>But Hillenmeyer isn&#39;t the highest-paid hospital executive in Central Florida. Not by a long shot.  <BR> <BR>Florida Hospital CEO Lars Houmann made <b><font size="+1">$1.1 million,</font></b> according to IRS filings for 2007, the most recent year available.  <BR> <BR>And then there&#39;s the man who runs Florida Hospital&#39;s parent company - Winter Park-based Adventist Health - where CEO <b><font size="+1">Don Jernigan earned $3.5 million.</font></b>  <BR> <BR>Not bad for a faith-based nonprofit.  <BR> <BR>Jernigan&#39;s compensation package for 2007 was actually more than what was paid to the top administrators of the famed Mayo Clinic and Johns Hopkins Health System ... combined.  <BR> <BR>Local hospital officials say they simply pay their executives what they&#39;re worth and that the community receives top-notch care and philanthropy because of it.

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