How the RC Church cured nepotism.

cadge · 05-26-09 5:00 pm

"The Law of Celibacy, or “the gift from God” as the Church is fond of calling it, was made part of Roman Catholic canon around the years 1200-1250. It became so for a number of reasons, but its main purpose was to end the threat of married priests and their unchecked penchant for nepotism which was eroding not only the overall efficacy of the Church, but the homosexual power structure within it. Slathered up with religiosity, the gift of celibacy was ushered in and the scourge of nepotism cut off at the source." <a href="http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/stevens/stevens1.html" target=_top>http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/stevens/ste vens1.html</a>

elaine · 05-26-09 5:35 pm

And with that ruling, the problem may have worsened with homosexuality within the priesthood and pedophilia. Read the recent report of abuse and pedophilia practiced in the Catholic orphange in Ireland for 30+ years. Paul may have been right: "Better to marry than burn."

elaine · 05-26-09 5:36 pm

When human natural inclinations are prohibited, they only go underground. History unfailingly proves that axiom.

cadge · 12-07-09 2:08 am

I came across the second article posted below and it reminded me of the first one here that I posted back in may. Now, this has been going on for about the last 800 years all around the world. I remember thinking some time ago, "How on earth can there be so many homosexuals?" It isn't too hard to wonder if it could be that the situation has multiplied ever since the inception of celibacy. Look at the exposed influence of it just in the Northwest. Unreal! ------ "The Law of Celibacy, or “the gift from God” as the Church is fond of calling it, was made part of Roman Catholic canon around the years 1200-1250. .....its main purpose was to end the threat of married priests and their unchecked penchant for nepotism which was eroding not only the overall efficacy of the Church, but the homosexual power structure within it." <a href="http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/stevens/ste" target=_top>http://www.strike-the-root.com/columns/stevens/ste</a> vens1.html <a href="http://www.atomorrow.net/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=120&post=5312#POST5312" target=_top>http://www.atomorrow.net/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?t pc=120&post=5312#POST5312</a> ------- More Than 500 Sex Abuse Claims Filed Against Jesuits Sunday, December 06, 2009 SPOKANE, Wash. — "More than 500 people in the U.S. Northwest filed claims against the Oregon Province of the Society of Jesus in advance of a November deadline, alleging members of the Catholic order sexually abused them as children. The Spokesman-Review in Spokane reports the claims against the Jesuits span decades and range from Native Alaskan children to students at Spokane's Gonzaga Preparatory School. A federal judge overseeing the bankruptcy reorganization of the province set a Nov. 30 deadline for people to file the claims. The organization includes Jesuits in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana and Alaska. The Jesuits already have settled 200 additional sex-abuse claims." <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C579595%2C00.html?test=latestnews" target=_top>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579595,00.html ?test=latestnews</a>

admin · 12-07-09 10:40 am

Thanks, David. Did you check the article from the Irish Times at the bottom? What is going on in the Catholic Church that has allowed this to happen for 800ish years? It's almost unbelievable but totally despicable.

cadge · 12-07-09 12:38 pm

"...David. Did you check the article from the Irish Times at the bottom?" Do you mean this one? <a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1207/1224260239925.html" target=_top>http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1 207/1224260239925.html</a> The Irish Times - Monday, December 7, 2009 Jail is penalty for concealing child sex abuse Furthermore, Section 176 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006 created the offence of reckless endangerment of children which more specifically provides under sub section (2) as follows: A person having authority or control over a child or abuser, who intentionally or recklessly endangers a child by: (a) causing or permitting any child to be placed or left in a situation which creates a substantial risk to the child of being a victim of serious harm or sexual abuse, or (b) failing to take reasonable steps to protect a child from such a risk while knowing that the child is in such a situation, is guilty of an offence. Accordingly, the law ensures there can be no hiding place for anyone who seeks to cover up or fails to report child sexual abuse. Dermot Ahern, on publishing the Murphy report, assured us the clerical collar would no longer afford the protection that it may have before.

elaine · 12-07-09 4:22 pm

And here is another article from the Irish The Sunday Business Post: "It's official: We now have Catholic doctrine on how to lie, said Vincent Browne. A damning government report on sexual abuse by the clergy shows that Archbishop Desmond Connell covered up for the abusive priests under his authority, even lying to investigators. But Connel claims that these lies were not really lies because he had a 'mental reservation' about what he was saying. As he put it, 'You can use an ambiguous expression, realizing that the person who you are talking to will accept an untrue version of whatever it may be.' So, for example, when asked whether he had paid off a victim of one of his abusive priests, Connell answered that diocese funds 'are not used' for that purpose. By using the present tense, he reasons, he wasn't excluding the possibility that diocesan funds had been used for such a purpose in the past. Similarly, when a female victim complained that Connell was lying when he said he had cooperated in the investigation of her case, he countered that he never stipulated that he had cooperated 'fully.' "Such hairsplitting is repugnant even if the liar weren't a priest. And these guys presume to lecture the rest of us on morality?

cadge · 12-07-09 4:56 pm

Here's the URL for that article Elaine: <a href="http://www.thepost.ie/commentandanalysis/vatican-cannot-escape-blame-in-abuse-scandal-46043.html" target=_top>http://www.thepost.ie/commentandanalysis/vatican-c annot-escape-blame-in-abuse-scandal-46043.html</a> Vatican cannot escape blame in abuse scandal 06 December 2009 By Vincent Browne The cynical indifference by Irish Catholic bishops to the sexual abuse of children perpetrated by their brother priests is not the full story, by any means. The culpability of the leadership of the Catholic Church at the Vatican is part of that fuller story, as I hope to demonstrate.

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