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#1 04-24-09 10:23 pm

bob_2
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Types of plagiarism

Thought this was an appropo topic given all the ideas floating around and impressions being given of original ideas, adopted ideas, without revealing of sources, that ethically we should have this discussion:  <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.sussex.ac.uk/academicoffice/1-4-1-2-2.html" target=_top>http://www.sussex.ac.uk/academicoffice/1-4-1-2-2.h tml</a>

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#2 04-24-09 10:26 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

From above source:  <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Collusion <BR>This is when one student produces work and allows another student to copy it. If both students submit the work, BOTH students will be deemed to have colluded. Collusion falls under Academic Misconduct and can result in the piece of work being failed, a percentage reduction in the overall course mark OR an overall failure of the course. <BR> <BR>Collusion differs to group work - some coursework assessments will involve students working together on a particular project. Such assessments may require students sharing ideas, research and having a joint responsibility for the development of a project. Assignments for group work, however, should be written independently - identical assessments will be considered to be collusion. <BR> <BR>Advice to academic staff - try to make the remit of group work assessments as clear as possible. Ensure that students understand what is expected of them, and remind them of the implications of collusion. <BR> <BR>Advice to students - if you are unclear about the criteria for assessment of group work assignments please ask your tutor/lecturer/course convenor for clarification. <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>&#40;Message edited by Bob_2  on April 24, 2009&#41;

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#3 04-24-09 10:29 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

From above source:  <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Complete plagiarism <BR>This is when a piece of work is copied entirely from one or more sources. Even if the source&#40;s&#41; is acknowledged, and even properly referenced, it is still considered to be plagiarism as it contains no original work, or interpretation of the information, from the student. <BR> <BR>Partial plagiarism <BR>This involves inserting sections of directly copied and unacknowledged source&#40;s&#41; within an assignment. <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

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#4 04-24-09 10:31 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

From above source:  <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Copy and paste <BR>The availability of information on the internet & electronic journals means that it is now easy to &#39;copy and paste&#39; information into assignments. It is important that if such information is included in assignments that it is included in quotation marks &#40;&#34;....&#34;&#41; and that it is properly referenced. <BR> <BR>Word switch <BR>If you copy a sentence or paragraph into your assignment and change a few words it will still be considered to be plagiarism. It is better to paraphrase than to quote, and if you copy a phrase you should copy it word for word and use quotation marks. <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

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#5 04-24-09 10:33 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

From above source:  <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Misinterpreting common knowledge <BR>Common knowledge is information which is &#40;a&#41; well known to all in a particular field, &#40;b&#41; easily verified by consulting standard textbooks or encyclopaedias, and not disputed, &#40;c&#41; undisputed historical facts, and &#40;d&#41; known formulas or equations. <BR> <BR>Concealing sources <BR>If you have cited a piece of work from a text this does not mean you do not have to reference any other text you refer to from that work. No matter how many times you refer back to the text you must acknowledge the source, even if it is in the very next paragraph. <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

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#6 04-24-09 10:34 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

From above source:  <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Self-plagiarism <BR>Self-plagiarism is when you re-use your own previously written work or data in a new assignment and do not reference it appropriately. If you use material from a previous assignment you must reference it appropriately. Never use the same essay for different lecturers. If re-sitting a course, do not submit the same essay. <BR> <BR>Inadvertent plagiarism <BR>Plagiarism can occur as a result of poor study skills, but it is still considered to be academic misconduct. <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

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#7 04-24-09 10:37 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

<a href="http://dissc.tees.ac.uk/Plagiarism/Plag-4.htm" target=_top>http://dissc.tees.ac.uk/Plagiarism/Plag-4.htm</a> <BR> <BR><a href="http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/589/02/" target=_top>http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/589/02/</a> <BR> <BR>These two sites where sited at the end of the above article starting this thread. Presented for discussion purposes.

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#8 04-24-09 10:42 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

Note this violation:  <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>building on someone&#39;s ideas without citing their spoken or written work. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR><a href="http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/589/02/" target=_top>http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/589/02/</a> <BR> <BR>Me suspects a lot of this going on in certain circles here, especially the ones that accuse others of cutting and pasting and giving sources, when they rarely do with their &#34;brilliant questions&#34; and &#34;observations&#34;. Anybody else notice that???

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#9 04-24-09 10:54 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

<a href="http://www.la.psu.edu/CLA-LAUS/integrity/docs/TypesofPlagiarism.pdf" target=_top>http://www.la.psu.edu/CLA-LAUS/integrity/docs/Type sofPlagiarism.pdf</a> <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Paraphrasing, stating someone else&#39;s ideas in your own words, can lead you to unintentional plagiarism. Jotting down notes and ideas from sources and then using them without proper attributions to the authors or titles in introductory phrases may result in a paper that is only a blend of your words combined with the words of others that appear to be yours.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>Me thinks there is a lot of this going on her on this forum, especially those accusing others of cutting and pasting and giving sources, when they paraphase others ideas they have learned in classes or books they have paid for. <BR> <BR>Especially noted when someone is on an unusual roll of questions, example, difficult questions and clever answers.

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#10 04-25-09 9:19 am

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Re: Types of plagiarism

<font color="0000ff">Me thinks there is a lot of this going on her on this forum....</font> <BR> <BR>Another example of your poor thinking skills. <BR> <BR><font color="0000ff">...when they paraphase others ideas they have learned in classes or books they have paid for.</font> <BR> <BR>You don&#39;t even understand what &#34;paraphrase&#34; means.<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>par·a·phrase  &#40;pr-frz&#41; <BR>n. <BR>1. A restatement of a text or passage in another form or other words, often to clarify meaning. <BR>2. The restatement of texts in other words as a studying or teaching device. <BR>v. par·a·phrased, par·a·phras·ing, par·a·phras·es <BR>v.tr. <BR>To restate in a paraphrase. <BR>v.intr. <BR>To compose a paraphrase.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paraphrase" target=_top>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paraphrase</a> <BR> <BR> <BR><font color="0000ff">Especially noted when someone is on an unusual roll of questions, example, difficult questions and clever answers.</font> <BR> <BR>Bob, I deny your accusation.  The burden of proof is on YOU.  <font color="0000ff"><i>Edited.  -admin</i></font> <BR> <BR>You should spend some time looking at the time stamps on my posts.  How much time elapsed between one post and the next one, usually, on another thread entirely? <BR> <BR>How long would it take for an average typist to write out a reply of equal length? <BR> <BR>Versus, how long would it take to remember which book a clever response is in?  &#40;or google and go through a million links looking for what you wanted&#41; <BR> <BR>You are clueless in Wildwood, MO. <BR> <BR>I have studied this off and on for over thirty years. <BR> <BR>I have many, many books and web articles.  I used to subscribe to the 4th R, BAR, read Ministry online, have read almost every EG White book that has been in print over the last 40 years plus &#34;An Appeal to Mothers&#34; which the church is embarrassed to print,  read many of the Nag Hammadi texts, many of the documents and booklets of the Early Church Fathers, studied the findings from Ugarit, the Cyrus Cylinder &#40;and seen it at the British Museum&#41;, read personal writings of Wesley at Oxford, studied the textual differences between the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masoretic Text. <BR> <BR>Etc, <i>ad infinitum</i>. <BR> <BR>I don&#39;t need a book in front of me or a website to answer 99% of your juvenile, assinine ramblings.  They just pop right off the top of my head. <BR> <BR>In addition, I had an A every single semester for 4 years of Academy English classes AND took Honors English in college.  I AM able to compose a coherent sentence, usually free from major spelling and grammatical errors.  &#40;unlike yourself&#41;. <BR> <BR>Again, the BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU. <BR> <BR>And, again, produce proof, or <font color="0000ff"><i>Edited.  -admin</i></font> <BR> <BR>Oh, and PS:  I saw in one of your posts from the last 24 hours somewhere that you spelled &#39;embarrass&#39; incorrectly as &#34;embarass&#34;.  When I was in 3rd grade the school let me compete in the 4th grade spelling bee.  I came in second because, embarrassingly, I misspelled embarrass just the same as you.  Course,  I can assure you that I have never misspelled it again in the last 40 years! <BR> <BR>&#40;Message edited by admin on May 02, 2009&#41;

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#11 04-25-09 10:31 am

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Re: Types of plagiarism

Bob <BR> <BR>In May of 2006 I started the thread &#34;Gods to God -  The Old Road in the OT&#34;. <BR> <BR>The first post began<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Don & Bob2 <BR> <BR>I am starting a new thread to carry on the request for info about the ancient pantheons from which the Jewish religion came.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR><a href="http://www.atomorrow.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=160&post=54585#POST54585" target=_top>http://www.atomorrow.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?t pc=160&post=54585#POST54585</a> <BR> <BR>Of the 92 posts on that thread, only 2 were made by you.  Neither post was about the subject at hand:<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Don&#39;t take it for fact just because you can Google it, Ms. Elaine!!!!!!!<img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/rofl.gif" border=0><img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/kiss.gif" border=0><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p><a href="http://www.dogpile.com" target=_top>www.dogpile.com</a>, which include Google, but all other browser sites also.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>I quoted MANY different sources in this study &#40;30-40 not counting Biblical texts&#41; yet you did not even care to enter the conversation in an adult way. <BR> <BR>If I give you a Bible study or am laying out a logical argument for a particular point then I will do some research to find links and the appropriate authorities, scholars, and Biblical passages. <BR> <BR>If I&#39;m just answering your run-of-the-mill, old, tired, regurgitated apologist arguments then I have no need or desire to go document authorities for things that are at the tip of my fingers on the keyboard from memory recall. <BR> <BR>I am sorry that you have not studied your religion very thoroughly.  But don&#39;t project your ignorance and lack of effort onto John, Elaine, Maggie, your brother Don, or myself. <BR> <BR>Get studying and quit your whining.

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#12 04-25-09 3:15 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

Gee, you are touchy, I was referring to John Alfke when he got on a roll and finally revealed his sources of his questions and speculations. I wasn&#39;t referring to you, but sometimes people come out of church believing the minister was talking about them. If the shoe fits...

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#13 04-25-09 3:41 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

<font color="0000ff">I was referring to John Alfke</font> <BR> <BR>Then say who you mean instead of &#34;they&#34; and &#34;someone&#34;.  Then it will be clear to others besides yourself who you are speaking of. <BR> <BR>You constantly complain to me about sources &#40;even though I wasn&#39;t using any&#41; and insinuate that Myself or Elaine or John are copying things without the proper acknowledgments. <BR> <BR>Obviously, when you bring up &#34;they&#34; and &#34;someone&#34; I am going to respond. <BR> <BR>If you want to make accusations make it clear who the accusations are directed to.

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#14 04-25-09 4:21 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

and I wasn&#39;t copying...I was pulling an EGW.... <BR> <BR>borrowing many diverse  peoples questions, rearranging and rewriting them, then quoting the Contemp English Version of the Bible to show how &#34;diverse&#34; the Bibles answers are.... <BR> <BR>of course, since you haven&#39;t even read the complete but diverse collection of books included in the Hebrew Bibliography, s&#39;now wonda you got mixed up. <BR> <BR><font color="0000ff">I don&#39;t need a book in front of me or a website to answer 99% of your juvenile, assinine ramblings</font>....unfortunately,  I do.... fortunately there are many websites which can be referenced to point out and &#39;splain the issues... <BR> <BR>the problem is that Bob seems to not want to listen, study, or understand...he has his mind already made up and does not want to be confused by evidence or facts. <BR> <BR>I just wish the Bible had been better written, so that it was not so confusing.... <BR> <BR>I mean, it may not seem important whether Judas hung himself, as splained by a  Gospel writer, or fell headlong and his insides gushed out, as Peter told the gathered assembly according to Acts.   <BR> <BR>But doesn&#39;t the divine uncertainty cast reasonable doubt on the &#34;innerrancy&#34; of it all....???


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#15 04-25-09 4:34 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

<font color="0000ff">I mean, it may not seem important whether Judas hung himself, as splained by a Gospel writer, or fell headlong and his insides gushed out, as Peter told the gathered assembly according to Acts.</font> <BR> <BR>Which of course Paul implies that neither happened as he said HIS Jesus had, after the resurrection, appeared to the &#34;12&#34;.  Did Jesus bring Judas back to life so that he could appear to him? <BR> <BR>Um, no.  Paul was speaking of a &#34;spiritual&#34; Jesus appearing to a &#34;Spiritual&#34; 12. <BR> <BR>The Bible is not just errant about science.  Apparently they also were unable to count to 12 accurately.

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#16 04-25-09 10:52 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

John and Neal, browse on the internet about the Emerging Church, and read about yourselves.

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#17 04-25-09 11:11 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

From the wiki article it sounds like Maggie&#39;s direction.  Definitely NOT mine. <BR> <BR>Maybe you are having a difficult time discerning the fact that its still based on the same book which contains the same myths and is centered on superstitious beliefs. <BR> <BR>What, EXACTLY, does it have to say about me? <BR> <BR>Nothing that I could find. <BR> <BR>Try again, Bob. <BR> <BR>If you want a more clear idea of my thoughts they would be staunchly anti-theist.  If it has the word church in it I&#39;m probably against it. <BR> <BR>I believe &#34;Emerging Church&#34; contains the word &#34;church&#34;. <BR> <BR><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_church" target=_top>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_church</a>

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#18 04-25-09 11:24 pm

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Re: Types of plagiarism

<a href="http://subversiveinfluence.com/2009/01/book-nod-the-new-atheist-crusaders/" target=_top>http://subversiveinfluence.com/2009/01/book-nod-th e-new-atheist-crusaders/</a> <BR> <BR>Read about the subversive influence of guys like you, Dawkins and Hitchens. Don&#39;t try to appear so naive, Neal.

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