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#1 07-12-11 11:06 am

cadge
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Registered: 12-28-08
Posts: 288

Orthodox Sabbath Keeping Rulesa swim.- Let's go swimming

Activities prohibited on Shabbat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activities … on_Shabbat

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    * 1 The Commandment
    * 2 Meaning of "work"
    * 3 What are they?
    * 4 Groups
    * 5 The thirty-nine activities
          o 5.1 Planting
          o 5.2 Plowing
          o 5.3 Reaping
          o 5.4 Gathering
          o 5.5 Threshing/Extraction
          o 5.6 Winnowing
          o 5.7 Sorting/Purification
          o 5.8 Grinding
          o 5.9 Sifting
          o 5.10 Kneading/Amalgamation
          o 5.11 Cooking/Baking
          o 5.12 Shearing
          o 5.13 Scouring/Laundering
          o 5.14 Beating/Combing wool
          o 5.15 Dyeing
          o 5.16 Spinning
          o 5.17 Warping
          o 5.18 Making two loops
          o 5.19 Weaving
          o 5.20 Separating two threads
          o 5.21 Tying
          o 5.22 Untying
          o 5.23 Sewing
          o 5.24 Tearing
          o 5.25 Trapping
          o 5.26 Slaughtering
          o 5.27 Flaying
          o 5.28 Curing/Preserving
          o 5.29 Smoothing
          o 5.30 Scoring
          o 5.31 Measured Cutting
          o 5.32 Writing
          o 5.33 Erasing
          o 5.34 Building
          o 5.35 Demolition
          o 5.36 Extinguishing a fire
          o 5.37 Igniting a fire
          o 5.38 Applying the finishing touch
          o 5.39 Transferring between domains
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I always though it was strange that it was okay to go on a hot sweaty hike through the hills on Sabbath, but you couldn't jump in the water for a swim. Today I know that God isn't a tyrant, and that he would have been more than happy to have us refresh ourselves with a cool swim that we could give thanks and be grateful for.

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#2 07-13-11 6:34 pm

bob
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Re: Orthodox Sabbath Keeping Rulesa swim.- Let's go swimming

Could this be the clinker to your thoughts?

Is 58: 13 “If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
   and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
   and the LORD’s holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
   and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the LORD,
   and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land
   and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.”
            For the mouth of the LORD has spoken.

What are idle thoughts?  Would an idle word be talking about the new car you just bought and how great the air conditioner and back up camera work?

My claim is that I was never able to keep the Sabbath.  I always said or did something that was what I thought were idle words.

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#3 07-29-11 9:55 pm

bob_2
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Re: Orthodox Sabbath Keeping Rulesa swim.- Let's go swimming

Isaiah 58 is from the Old Covenant, and is talking to the Israelites. This is not transcovenantal. The SDAs make Salvation look trivial when they bring up the day of worship, when there is no command by Christ while on this earth and their is no command to keep Sabbath by Paul or any other apostles. If it was a major tenet that was transcovenantal, there would have been a command. The SDA church ought to call themselves Adventists and adopt NCT which would solve a lot of the eisengesis of the Church's Theology.

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#4 07-30-11 7:54 am

bob
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Re: Orthodox Sabbath Keeping Rulesa swim.- Let's go swimming

And....Adventists have one foot on the Old Testament and one in the New when it comes to their Sabbath "keeping".   Plus they are very good at picking and choosing what laws they think will fit into their lifestyle.  Having a bunch of rules eases their conscience and allows them to think they are actually doing something that will merit special favor from God.   All this phony bologna because of being brainwashed into believing that works count.

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#5 07-30-11 2:36 pm

bob_2
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Re: Orthodox Sabbath Keeping Rulesa swim.- Let's go swimming

Because Jesus kept the Sabbath under the OC, does not mean it is transcovenantal. If so, the animal offerings He and His family made, and the Sancutary services and New Moon Festivals, would have to come through  to the New Covenant also. I am appreciating this passage of scripture more and more. I answers Tom's question how Jesu body could fulfill the law:

Hebrews 10:19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.

Last edited by bob_2 (07-30-11 2:42 pm)

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