Can beer be dangerous for your health?

bob_2 · 09-12-09 12:54 pm

Can daily consumption of beer be dangerous for your health? <a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_daily_consumption_of_beer_be_dangerous_for_your_health" target=_top>http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_daily_consumption_of _beer_be_dangerous_for_your_health</a> <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Answer Alchohol for the heart... If your an alchoholic, yes. For most people two 12oz servings of reg beer (less than 6% alchohol) is a benefit. It can reduce the risk of heart problems, but as my professor said, don't be a hero. More is not better. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

bob_2 · 09-12-09 1:16 pm

As a nursing home administrator, I occasionally run into a janitor that thinks more is better when it comes to cleaning solutions. Usually what you get is the smell of a old gas station bathroom or a sticky floor from the residual. All alcohol/beer drinker, take a lesson. Moderate alchol consumption for health is measured as two drink a day. I have an occasional drink, but I am not even on this meter, maybe one a month. Beside, I think I would get sick before I got drunk.

don · 09-12-09 4:01 pm

Wine-drinkers higher I.Q. than Beer Drinkers.<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Better Psychological Functioning and Higher Social Status May Largely Explain the Apparent Health Benefits of Wine A Study of Wine and Beer Drinking in Young Danish Adults Erik L. Mortensen, PhD; Hans H. Jensen, PhD; Stephanie A. Sanders, PhD; June M. Reinisch, PhD Arch Intern Med. 2001;161:1844-1848. Background: Findings from a recent series of Danish studies suggest that moderate wine drinkers are healthier than those who drink other alcoholic beverages or those who abstain. Objective To identify possible explanatory factors associated with the health benefits of wine consumption through the examination of a wide spectrum of social, cognitive, and personality characteristics related to both beverage choice and health in young Danish adults. Subjects and Methods Descriptive cross-sectional study of characteristics associated with beverage choice in a sample of 363 men and 330 women between the ages of 29 and 34 years, selected from the Copenhagen Perinatal Cohort on the basis of perinatal records. Main Outcome Measures Socioeconomic status, education, IQ, personality, psychiatric symptoms, and health-related behaviors, including alcohol consumption, were analyzed. The outcome variables were subjected to linear and logistic regression analyses with 2 factors (beer and wine), each with 2 levels (drinking or not drinking a certain beverage type). Results Wine drinking was significantly associated with higher IQ, higher parental educational level, and higher socioeconomic status. Beer drinking was significantly associated with lower scores on the same variables. On scales concerning personality, psychiatric symptoms, and health-related behaviors, wine drinking was associated with optimal functioning and beer drinking with suboptimal functioning. Conclusions Our data demonstrate that wine drinking is a general indicator of optimal social, cognitive, and personality development in Denmark. Similar social, cognitive, and personality factors have also been associated with better health in many populations. Consequently, the association between drinking habits and social and psychological characteristics, in large part, may explain the apparent health benefits of wine. From the Danish Epidemiology Science Center, Institute of Preventive Medicine (Drs Mortensen, Jensen, and Reinisch) and the Department of Health Psychology, Institute of Public Health (Drs Mortensen and Jensen), University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark; and The Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction, Indiana University, Bloomington (Drs Sanders and Reinisch). <a href="http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/15/1844" target=_top>http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/ 161/15/1844</a> <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>Hmmmm. Many "Intelligent" people prefer wine to beer or to non-alcohol drinks. This makes it look like wine helps people to be more intelligent. .

john8verse32 · 09-12-09 5:24 pm

its a geographic and evolutionary thing!!!!! Europeans from northern countries did not have the warm Med climate to grow grapes, so they made beer out of grains....which did grow well in their short summers with moist environments. Mediterranean peoples had grapes thanks to their temperate climate, and therefore pressed out wine, not beer since grains did not grow as well in their dry climates. Later, William the Conquorer of France invaded Anglo-Saxon land, a germanic, therefore beer drinking land, and imposed their Roman inherited ways.... everything high class was of French (and therefore Mediterranean) origin... everything the poor people were involved with was germanic... riche = a French word maison = the big house the riche population inhabited "haus" = what the poor anglos lived in the poor anglos "speak' to each other (sprechen se deutsch?"... while the riche haute classes got themselves elected to "parliment" (parlez vous francais?) the poor took care of the animals, und trinken milsche von kuhs (drink milk from cows) while the royalty (from "roi", the king") drank vino, and ate the meat... sheep = schoep in danish, while in french the name of the animal is the name of the meat: mouton you never ate the female cow who gave milsch, but insted ate the male cow, le boeuf, as in beef, buffalo, etc. so wine may be no better for you than beer, but it has a more classic cachet (another high class french word!!) the poor sent their kids (kinder) to kinder-garden, while les riches sent theirs to college, or even universite. btw: if you were a lowly anglo kid wanting to date the kings daughter, first you had to learn french, then take a bath, wear parfum to cover the barnyard odeurs, wear silken flowing robes, and learn the "gentlehomme" ways of the court (court-esy), as well as horsemanship (chival-ry, cheval being horse). But... if you were ever caught "fricken"* around with the village girls, fricken being the ancient teutonic verb for "to pound", then you would be all fricked up with dating the high class kings daughter. And we inherited the verb and always thought it was dirty...but it was just low class!!! since to make amour in haute classe requires more "romance" (the ways of the high class French, based on their roman background) than just pounding away in a haystack. while the high class way to entertain your girlfriend requires at least a "couch" (voulez-vous coucher avec moi?") All Carlins 7 bad words are germanic.... not dirty, just low class. you'd be more likely to try some extrafancy excrement with a bit of grey poupon on the side, than you would if it carried the germanic name!!! fricken = frippon in Danish, and they named a jet fighter that way; frapper = the french version of the verb, and here in NE we frappe up ice cream and milk into a "frappe"; the French AF is the "force de frappe". from the four letter version of the verb, we get SNAFU...situation normal, all fricked up and FUBAR ...Fricked up beyond all reason. but the more one uses the teutonic words, the lower ones class seems.... (use, word, more, seem...all are german) while the augmented status portrayed by the acceptance and employ of higher class greek and roman based vocabulary invariably demonstrates a higher level of education and sophistification. but that could be all greek to some.

tom_norris · 09-12-09 5:32 pm

Don said: Many "Intelligent" people prefer wine to beer or to non-alcohol drinks. This makes it look like wine helps people to be more intelligent. Tom said: Those that drink wine have a real advantage over those that do not. This fact has emerged in a number of studies over the years. More importantly, the Kingdom of God has embraced and elevated wine to a very special place long ago. Thus wine is associated with the blood of Jesus and Eternal Life. Who are the SDA’s or the Muslims to come along later and teach abstinence? Real wine is the drink of the Gospel! It is a prescribed and mandatory liquid for all those that have embraced Eternal Life. Those that think otherwise have another Gospel, one that is a fraud. Heaven has determined that wine is good for the body and the soul. This is why it is featured in the Eucharist, which is the most sacred and meaningful ritual of the church. God would hardly select a drink that is harmful would he? Rather, he would select the best that the earth had to offer. Which was wine. With such a celestial and apostolic endorsement, it should come as no surprise that wine is good and necessary for the church community. It has healing and medicinal properties, even as it reinforces the Gospel Story with every drink. What a pity that the Adventists do not embrace the Gospel Story or the Lord’s Supper correctly. They are living in their own delusional world, and they seem to like it that way. They refuse to drink what Jesus has commanded, even as they despise what God has so mercifully provided. Silly SDAs. When will they learn? The Adventists are very wrong to promote abstinence. They are showing both their ignorance of the Gospel Story as well as their legalistic views about Sanctification. Here is just one more point where the SDA’s do not understand the Bible or world history correctly. They have made reckless, and very wrong assumptions about wine, that if not corrected, will harm their bodies and destroy their souls. Away with such nonsense and false doctrine. The Gospel does not allow anyone to substitute pasteurized grape juice for the Lord’s Supper. Dr. Welch did not help the church with this stunt; rather he made a fool of it. The Temperance Movement led the Adventists into this trap and they need to stand up for the Gospel and repudiate their position of abstinence. It is an insult to the Gospel and to grapes everywhere! Tom Norris for AR

don · 09-12-09 10:52 pm

The Gospel does not allow anyone to substitute pasteurized grape juice for the Lord’s Supper. Dr. Welch did not help the church with this stunt; rather he made a fool of it. The Gospel makes no statement about fermentation of the wine used, or for that matter, the pasteurization process. Such a process was unknown to the Gospel writers and Paul. I have not read your full post, Tom, but I am unaware of a Biblical distinction between fermented and unfermented wine. I am aware that James White defended the use of fermented wine in the Lord's Supper. He said the amounts used were too small to fuss over.<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Some, however, object to grape wine, because it is fermented, and they have even chosen in its place, water sweetened with molasses. We freely admit that this is a suitable article to go with rye and indian bread. But there is something disgusting in the idea of representing the blood of the holy (of) Jesus by molasses, the cane from which it is made, raised in slavery, and its juice, pressed and boiled in slavery, and with slave hands barreled and shipped North for free Christians to use instead of the juice of the grape, cultivated on free soil. This objecting to a few drops of domestic wine with which to only wet the lips at the Lord's supper, is carrying total-abstinence principles to great length. To those who are conscientious in this matter, we would recommend pure cold water. <a href="http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/RH/RH18670416-V29-19/index.djvu?djvuopts&p%20age=6" target="_blank">The Review and Herald, April 16, 1867, page 6</a> This is a DjVu file. The "plugin" is available <a href="http://www.adventistarchives.org/GetDjVuControl.asp" target="_blank">**here**</a> for free. Adventist History Library has James White's article <a href="http://www.covenantforum.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=584&post=4942#POST4942" target="_blank">**here**</a>. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

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