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#1 03-18-10 12:37 pm

bob_2
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Is Israel still God's chosen nation?

Is Israel still God's chosen nation?

http://www.sabbathfellowship.org/bibles … israel.htm

Maybe if you are a Dispensationalist.

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#2 04-29-10 3:14 am

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Re: Is Israel still God's chosen nation?

Note the DISCONNECT or DISCONTINUITY from Israel to Spiritual Israel that include the believing remnant of Israel, but the Christian Church is the New Covenant Spiritual Israel, enabled by the Abrahamic Promise:

During the millennium the saved of all ages, including faithful Jews who lived before the Cross and believing Christians who have lived since then, are all in the heavenly kingdom. Revelation 7:15 speaks of them: "They are before the throne of God, and worship him day and night within his temple." The temple of God is in heaven, not on this earth (Rev. 11:19; 15:5). Not until the end of the millennium does the holy city, New Jerusalem, descend from heaven to this earth (compare Rev. 21:2 with 20:7-9). During the millennium the saved of all ages, including those who have passed through the end-time tribulation (see Dan. 12:1; Rev. 7:14), are occupying thrones in the heavenly temple judging lost human beings and angels (compare Rev. 20:4 with 1 Cor. 6:2, 3).

The idea that the literal nation Israel will be completely restored at the end of history, that during the millennium the Old Testament promises to Israel will be literally fulfilled is an unbiblical teaching. Because the Jews rejected Christ, they lost their chosen nation status, lost the promise that the land of Palestine would be theirs forever, and forfeited their privilege of being the teachers of the Gospel to an unbelieving world. Our Lord bestowed upon His Church in all the world these covenant promises. The land will, indeed, belong to His people, but it will not be limited to Palestine. It will be first the heavenly Canaan during the millennium, followed by the earth made new at the end of the 1,000 years. Jesus said, "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth" (Matt. 5:5).

Whatever your national or racial heritage, salvation is for you, if you have accepted Christ as your Savior and Lord. You can trust Him to fulfill for you individually the eternal promises for true believers.

This overall article may not teach NCT but it shows DICONTINUITY which brings up the DECALOGUE and whether it is the standard of behavior for the Christian after the "Seed came" and the statement in Heb 8:13.

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#3 04-29-10 3:21 am

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Re: Is Israel still God's chosen nation?

Remember, the Decalogue was not given to the Jews for 430 years later, so the commandments kept by Abraham could not be the Decalogue.

Deuteronomy 5

The Ten Commandments

1 Moses summoned all Israel and said:
      Hear, O Israel, the decrees and laws I declare in your hearing today. Learn them and be sure to follow them. 2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. 3 It was not with our fathers that the LORD made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today. 4 The LORD spoke to you face to face out of the fire on the mountain. 5 (At that time I stood between the LORD and you to declare to you the word of the LORD, because you were afraid of the fire and did not go up the mountain.) And he said:
6 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

He was not rescued from Egypt. And he is excluded as a forefather of Israel from being part of the Old Covenant. His was the Abrahamic Promise, that enabled Gentiles to be adopted into Spiritual Israel. There is Continuity there, but not in the OC and Decalogue that was only valid until "the Seed " would come.

Gal 3:19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. ...

From the last post above:

Paul's message is that, if we believe as Abraham did, we too will have righteousness imputed to us (Rom. 4:22-25). Christ's righteousness will be put to our account and also bestowed upon us by the gift of the Holy Spirit. The presence of the Spirit in our hearts is Christ's presence (John 14:18), and this divine indwelling is righteousness in our hearts (Rom. 8:9, 10).

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#4 04-30-10 2:06 pm

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Re: Is Israel still God's chosen nation?

I refer you to this next article, but be careful!! The author is correct in most points of NCT but has woven in Calvinism/Reformed Theology. When the Elect is spoken of, it is not exclusive, even though the author uses it that way. That is my objection to Calvinism. All men are redeemed by Christ's death, but not all will receive it. Having said that, this author says the following important points about NCT:

The New Covenant Theology does not believe the Nation of Israel is the real people of God. They believe the Nation of Israel is unbelieving people of God who are rejected by God as a covenant nation. They do, however, believe the remnant of the Nation of Israel were true believers. They believe the New Covenant believers are now the true people of God because Jesus purchased all who are under the New Covenant. They believe even though the Nation of Israel is referred to as the people of God, they are not people of God. They believe the Nation of Israel was a nation that God had adopted in a way that of His Children were adopted in Christ. They believe this is the reason the Nation of Israel can be called the children of the kingdom that shall be cast out because they are rejected by God.

The New Covenant Theology believes the Abrahamic Covenant is a revealing of the plan of salvation of the purpose of God through Abraham and his physical descendants. They believe the true seed of Abraham in Jesus Christ and the believers are the true children of Abraham.

http://www.guidedbiblestudies.com/libra … venant.htm

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