Should there be a Redo of the Redo? No Bible Used!

bob_2 · 01-23-09 6:52 am

No Bible used in Redo of Swearing in of Obama. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/21/AR2009012103685_pf.html" target=_top>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2009/01/21/AR2009012103685_pf.html</a> Does this have anything to do with Obama not being sure where he was born??? No REDO please!!!<img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/rofl.gif" border=0>

neal · 03-04-09 8:41 pm

Does this have anything to do with Obama not being sure where he was born??? Bob I am certain that Obama is NOT unsure of where he was born. I think you and some of the fringe of this country are just sore losers. You guys have been drinking the Limbaugh koolaid too long. Now, in one of my 500-1000 stories per day, I see that some loons in your state government want a change to the state constitution so they can keep people off the ballot if they can't come up with an original birth certificate within 30 days. They ALSO want to be able to go back and request them from those that HAVE been on the ballot. Change the constitution for one case? Are you all crazy in Missouri? Too funny!<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:For candidates who are required by the Constitution of the United States to be natural born citizens, the secretary of state shall request an official copy of the candidate’s birth certificate. Other certifications, such as a certificate of live birth, shall not be accepted. Should any candidate fail to provide an official birth certificate within thirty days of the request by the secretary of state, his or her name shall not be placed on the ballot. The secretary of state shall verify the qualifications of any elected officeholder who was previously placed on a Missouri ballot. Should any elected officeholder fail to provide the required documentation or birth certificate within thirty days of the request by the secretary of state, the secretary of state shall turn the matter over to the attorney general who shall within twenty days file suit to obtain the required documentation.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <a href="http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills091/biltxt/intro/HJR0034I.htm" target=_top>http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills091/bilt xt/intro/HJR0034I.htm</a> You are probably all too happy to have your pay taxed so that these loons can change your state's constitution in order to attempt to prove some off-the-wall baloney dreamed up by desperate losers.

bob_2 · 03-04-09 10:32 pm

You must have got too close to one of those 8 screens, I have no idea what you are talking about. It's not a story here. You need to tone the rhetoric down calling people loons and losers, it doesn't reflect too well on Coloradoans.

neal · 03-04-09 10:55 pm

It's not a story here. A Joint Resolution by the Missouri State House to put a bill before the people that would change the constitution isn't NEWS in your state? What IS considered news in your state? Pork rinds on sale at the market? A fire in somebody's outhouse?

bob_2 · 03-04-09 11:47 pm

I just haven't heard anybody to upset about it, raving upset about it. It'll probably die on the vine.

neal · 03-05-09 12:13 am

Maybe you guys are too depressed to think about it? Seems like Business Week has given St. Louis the ranking of Second Unhappiest City in America.<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:America's top 10 unhappiest cities By BusinessWeek The other kind of depression Some U.S. cities were depressed even before the economy went on life support. These were the cities that saw the highest depression and suicide rates even while the Dow Jones was climbing to 14,000 and Countrywide Financial was considered a respected mortgage lender. Why? Blame a variety of reasons, from divorce and crime to lousy weather and job loss. While that's bad enough, it will be important to see how these rankings change from this year to next. As the rest of the country struggles with the financial crisis, it is possible that some of these cities may soon become even unhappier. Editor's Note: BusinessWeek.com ranked 50 of the largest metros based on a variety of factors including depression rates, suicide rates, divorce rates, crime, unemployment, population loss, job loss, weather and green space. The most heavily weighted factors were the depression, suicide, jobs (unemployment and job loss) and crime rates. The depression rate is based on survey and aggregated insurance reporting information at time of discharge, doctor's office visits and insurance process filings. The suicide rate is for 2004 and comes from The 2007 Big Cities Health Inventory compiled by the National Assembly of County & City Health Officials (NACCHO). The crime risk indexes for property and crime used for the scoring were based on FBI crime reporting for the seven most-recent available years. Divorce rates and 2009 population change come from the U.S. Census. The number of cloudy days came from the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration. By Prashant Gopal, BusinessWeek<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <a href="http://realestate.msn.com/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=18184152" target=_top>http://realestate.msn.com/slideshow.aspx?cp-docume ntid=18184152</a>

bob_2 · 03-05-09 2:18 am

If you have read my comments about St. Louis I would not dispute the happiness factor with car jackings and State School takeovers. I would say, there needs to be a distinction made between City and suburbs. I believe their is a different in satisfaction with their lives depending on where they live.

bob_2 · 03-05-09 11:53 am

Hey, Neal sounds like Denver has it's own "loser" problems: <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Homelessness Mayor Hickenlooper appointed a 41-member Commission to End Homelessness. In May, the commission recommended a 10-year, $122 million plan to address homelessness. The Plan calls for developing more than 3,200 transitional-housing units coupled with a strong network of support services. A recent survey counted roughly 4,600 homeless people in Denver, many of them homeless for the first time because of the loss of a job or high housing costs. Startup costs for the proposal would total $7.7 million the first year, with an estimated budget of $12.5 million each year after that. Half of the funds would be provided by governmental sources, with nonprofit groups providing onefourth, and corporations and individuals paying another quarter of the costs. Housing is the cornerstone of the plan, which proposes building 3,193 units of transitional housing and 1,453 additional beds in emergency shelters. Once the housing is underway, the commission wants to implement a better network of support and services for the occupants - such as substance-abuse and mentalhealth counseling, medical care, job training and parenting skills. Transitional housing can be semi-permanent or permanent housing, usually coupled with financial assistance for people earning less than $15,050, or 30 percent of the area median income. Emergency shelter beds are filled nightly and emptied each morning. The commission is working with the Denver City Council on proposed zoning changes, allowing creation of new emergency shelters in governmental and nonprofit buildings. The city last year overwhelmingly rejected a proposal by homeless people to erect a tent city, vacant schools have been dropped from the plan, and the city is de-emphasizing its reliance on churches. The plan, modeled after a successful project undertaken in Philadelphia, calls for substantial outreach programs to persuade the homeless to come in for help. For those who refuse or for those who remain chronically homeless, enforcement of city ordinances, such as those prohibiting panhandling or sleeping in the open, will be the last resort.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <a href="http://www.austin-chamber.org/TheChamber/AboutTheChamber/Denver05_Intercity/downtown.pdf" target=_top>http://www.austin-chamber.org/TheChamber/AboutTheC hamber/Denver05_Intercity/downtown.pdf</a>

bob_2 · 03-06-09 12:10 am

Neal I was looking for a date of the survey or article for that matter, on the unhappiest cities, what happened to your eight screens, this is old data: <blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Editor's Note: BusinessWeek.com ranked 50 of the largest metros based on a variety of factors including depression rates, suicide rates, divorce rates, crime, unemployment, population loss, job loss, weather and green space. The most heavily weighted factors were the depression, suicide, jobs (unemployment and job loss) and crime rates. The depression rate is based on survey and aggregated insurance reporting information at time of discharge, doctor's office visits and insurance process filings. The suicide rate is for 2004 and comes from The 2007 Big Cities Health Inventory compiled by the National Assembly of County & City Health Officials (NACCHO). The crime risk indexes for property and crime used for the scoring were based on FBI crime reporting for the seven most-recent available years. Divorce rates and 2009 population change come from the U.S. Census. The number of cloudy days came from the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration. By Prashant Gopal, BusinessWeek <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <a href="http://realestate.msn.com/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=18184152" target=_top>http://realestate.msn.com/slideshow.aspx?cp-docume ntid=18184152</a>

neal · 03-06-09 7:46 am

this is old data: It is a NEW, CURRENT story using the best data available. If you are able to find more recent data for Business Week to use in their CURRENT story I'm certain the editors of Business Week would love to hear from you. Your post about the poll concerning the happiness of believers in a sky deity versus the happiness of those who are not believers was an OLD STORY. That's the difference. I had seen that story of that poll long ago. You could NOT have seen the Business Week rankings long ago because it was just put together in the PRESENT.

bob_2 · 03-06-09 10:55 am

Prove to me the data used in the 2008 story was not using data more current than yours.

neal · 03-06-09 11:35 am

Prove to me the data used in the 2008 story.... The point was that it was a 2008 story. The story I posted was a CURRENT story using a the most recently available data sets from a combination of sources. If you can find more current info for Business Week to use from those sources then please do them a favor and let them know about it. I doubt that there is more current stats for the categories of data required and from as reliable of sources as they used. Your poll story was old. It was a NEW STORY when it was written sometime last year when the poll was done. If you want to think that you are showing me something new, then, like I said, it needs to be a day or two old else you will not be pointing anything out to me that I have most likely not already seen AND thought about. Unless, like I also said, it is something from some apologist nut site. Even then I've probably already seen a response to even THAT when PZ tears it to shreds in a few sentences using unabridged english. (Message edited by neal on March 06, 2009)

bob_2 · 03-06-09 2:19 pm

Neal, it's not that big a deal. There are parts of St. Louis and Denver as I showed, that could make people unhappy or nervous being in that part of town. SO WHAT!!! Most city's have that. I could tour you through St. Louis by the new Busch Statdium and Union Station that would impress you, or I could take you through the 70 corridor that would make you wonder how anybody would want to live here. So,again, SO WHAT!!!

neal · 07-22-09 12:21 pm

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!>quote:Commentary: Obama birth issue is nutty ... To watch others cheer her insanity, and then boo the congressman who says the president is an American, shows you that we have a serious problem with mental illness in this country. The nut jobs that continue to promote this story are wacky, right-wing radio and TV talk shows hosts and no-credibility bloggers. They have latched onto this story like bloodsucking leeches, and actually want us to believe this story has legs. ....<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obama.birth/index.html?eref=rss_latest" target=_top>http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/22/martin.obam a.birth/index.html?eref=rss_latest</a> "Nutty" is putting it mildly.

renie · 07-22-09 2:02 pm

The protests over Obama's place of birth sound to me like acts of desperation.

elaine · 07-22-09 5:03 pm

When there are no legitimate issues that can be raised against Obama, people will manufacture and disseminate all sorts of idiocy: and the idiots believe them. BTW there was a lengthy discussion about Obama's birth certificate here during election time. Some folks just don't get it--A life, that is.

aklym · 07-23-09 11:30 pm

I'll reappear briefly just for this. Some people hate Obama so much they will believe anything. Obama's family was so crafty, and they obviously anticipated that he would someday run for President, that they conned the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper in to publishing an announcement of his birth in August 13, 1961, just nine days after his birth. You have to admire any conspiracy with that much foresight!!!!!! There are a lot of people who rely for their political information on nutjobs like Glen Beck, a self-described recovering alcoholic rodeo clown with limited education, and Rush, a drug addicted clown with limited education. I suspect that is why this story won't die.

don · 07-24-09 12:37 pm

Hi Art, Good to hear from you. Don .

renie · 07-24-09 2:42 pm

Way to go, Arthur!!!!!!!

bob_2 · 07-24-09 11:47 pm

And Obama with a Harvard education calling the police stupid for responding to neighorhood complaints. Good move for a Harvard grad and the commander in chief who is dropping in popularity. Art, heard any conspiracy theories on this, or the president just being plain "stupidly", enough to have to apologize for playing the race card himself.

bob · 07-25-09 10:59 am

This Rush and Glenn hatred is typical of those who would like to silence the conservative movement. It is also typical, of those who like to bash others, to make light of a person's education.

bob · 07-25-09 11:02 am

Irene, I can't believe you are siding with this Arthur guy.

renie · 07-25-09 4:07 pm

Actually, Bob, I like Glen Beck. He's crazy, but I like him. I do agree with 'this Arthur guy' on the birth certificate stuff. What a red herring that one is.

don · 07-25-09 7:48 pm

I was watching Lou Dobbs on CNN for the first time in a long time. It surprised my how confrontational and extreme right wing he seemed to be. Is it just me or has Lou Dobbs changed? Some time ago, I would watch his program in order to get a carefully thoughtout analysis of the issues. Not any more. After watching him the other day, I noticed how confrontational I felt, rather than informed. .

elaine · 07-25-09 11:58 pm

Yeah, Don. I used to watch him but haven't in quite a while but saw a recent snippet on Jon Stewart and he's really a right-wing nut case.

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