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What is the place and the prophetic future of Israel? <BR> <BR>In my opinion, Heb 8:13 says it all. Their covenant is obsolete. <BR> <BR>If you read this verse: <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Romans 11:26And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: <BR> "The deliverer will come from Zion; <BR> he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. <BR> 27And this is[f] my covenant with them <BR> when I take away their sins." <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>Does that mean literally what it says? Dispensationalists think so. <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Distinction Between Israel and the Church <BR> <BR>All dispensationalists perceive a clear distinction between Israel and the church, particularly as different groups who receive a different set of promises. Dispensationalists hold that God provided the nation of Israel with specific promises which will be fulfilled at a future time in the Jews. The Church has received a different set of promises than that of Israel. Most dispensationalists also recognize "membership" overlap between Israel and the Church. Jewish Christians such as Paul, Peter and John are in this category. While most do not believe that Israel and the church are mutually exclusive groups, there is a small minority of past and present dispensationalists who do. Those who do hold that Israel and the church are mutually exclusive include some classical dispensationalists and virtually all ultradispensationalists <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalist_theology" target=_top>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalist_the ology</a> <BR> <BR>Yet, read the conditions of Romans 11: <BR> <BR><blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1><b>quote:</b></font><p>Romans 11:17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. <BR> <BR> 22Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree! <BR> <BR><!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote> <BR> <BR>If they belief they can be grafted in just as the Gentiles were grafted in to the Vine, Jesus/The Church. <BR> <BR>Historical Israel, what is happening to them is not part of God's promise. They are no longer God's chosen people. The land promise were part of that. This, IMO, has been misinterpreted by the US government and is why we arm them to the teeth and support them, our government doesn't want to be against God and any promises to the Jews.
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