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#1 02-02-09 9:16 pm

john8verse32
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Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

What would Paul say?  it doesn&#39;t matter in SoCal....the pastoral glass ceiling is being pierced!!! no matter that Paul says he gave the rule as God commanded. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>1 February 2009  <BR>BREAKING: Chris Oberg to Become First Female Senior Pastor of University Church <BR> <BR><a href="http://spectrummagazine.org/blog/2009/01/31/breaking_chris_oberg_become_first_female_senior_pastor_university_church" target=_top>http://spectrummagazine.org/blog/2009/01/31/breaki ng_chris_oberg_become_first_female_senior_pastor_u niversity_church</a> <BR> <BR>CALIMESA, California – <font color="0000ff">Pastor Chris Oberg of the Calimesa Seventh-day Adventist Church announced today that she will accept a call to serve as senior pastor of the La Sierra University Church in Riverside, California. Oberg will be the first woman to serve as senior pastor of an Adventist university church.</font> <BR> <BR> <BR>years back LSU hired as a president an archeologist who believes the world is older than 6,000 yrs!!! <BR> <BR>and they also had a bio teacher who was a closet evolutionist!!! <BR> <BR>what is the leftist coast coming to???!!! <BR> <BR>1 Cor 13... <BR> <BR>quote from Paul in Contemporary English: <BR><font color="ff6000">33 God wants everything to be done peacefully and in order. <i>When God&#39;s people meet in church,   34 <b>the women must not be allowed to speak</b>. They must keep quiet and listen, as the Law of Moses teaches.</i> <BR> <BR> 35 <font size="+2">If there is something they want to know, they can ask their husbands when they get home.</font> <BR> <BR> <i><b>It is disgraceful for women to speak in church.</b> <BR> <BR> 36 God&#39;s message did not start with you people, and you are not the only ones it has reached. <BR> <BR>   37 If you think of yourself as a prophet or a spiritual person, you will know that  <BR><b><i>I am writing only <font size="+2">what the Lord has commanded.</font></i></b> <BR> <BR>   38 <b><i>So don&#39;t pay attention to anyone who ignores what I am writing.</i></b></i></font> <BR> <BR>&#40;Message edited by john8verse32 on February 02, 2009&#41;


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#2 02-03-09 5:30 pm

elaine
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Re: Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

<b><font color="0000ff">what is the leftist coast coming to???!!! </font></b> <BR> <BR>You know the answer:  Drop off in the Pacific the next earthquake!! <BR> <BR>&#40;Now that Hubb, the last conservative has left, we are all doomed!&#41;<img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/wink.gif" border=0>

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#3 02-03-09 8:04 pm

john8verse32
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Re: Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

<font color="0000ff">Drop off in the Pacific the next earthquake!!</font> <BR> <BR>naw.... but everything left of Saint Andrews Fault is slowly moving north.... <BR> <BR>in a very long time, Daly City will grind into and block San Francisco Bay as it crashes into the marin headlands....  <BR> <BR>but what is your comment on a lady pastor for LSU? <BR> <BR>doesn&#39;t that contravene direct commands fromGod relayed thru Paul?   as claimed by paul?


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#4 02-03-09 9:59 pm

elaine
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Re: Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

John, if we obeyed all the instructions or recommendations made in the Bible, we would be so backward that no one would be left except the few who were mere robots who love to follow a leader, no questions asked. <BR> <BR>John, you and I are no longer official members &#40;right?&#41;, and that is only one reason I am ashamed to be a member of SDA.  Not treating women equally is very galling to me who was a feminist before that was a word.

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#5 10-19-09 6:10 am

jag
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Re: Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

As far as I see in the Pauline corpus &#40;the epistles accepted as authentic, not the pseudoepigraphs&#41;, Paul wouldn&#39;t mind at all. He even mentions female apostles after all!

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#6 10-19-09 4:50 pm

renie
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Re: Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

Hey John.  We don&#39;t stone someone to death for carrying wood on the sabbath.  We pretty much reject the theory that the earth is flat.  Thank goodness we don&#39;t take the Bible word for word.  We&#39;d be in a lot of trouble if we did.  I&#39;m sure that is the point you are trying to make. <BR> <BR>I&#39;m with Elaine.  I was a strong proponent of ordination of women way back.  It makes me angry the way the church has stalled on the issue.  It&#39;s obscene!!   <BR> <BR>I&#39;ve got a couple of things to say to good old Paul when I get a chance to talk with him.

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#7 10-19-09 8:30 pm

john8verse32
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Re: Lady pastors..what would Paul say?

Irene....go check out the thread at Spectrum about the book of Numbers..... <BR> <BR><a href="http://www.spectrummagazine.org/articles/sabbath_school/2009/09/28/numbers%E2%80%94_introduction" target=_top>http://www.spectrummagazine.org/articles/sabbath_school/2009/09/28/numbers%E2%80%94_introduction</a> <BR> <BR>somebody else started it,  but I was intrigued, and continued the exploration.... <BR> <BR>and so far, it seems that Numbers  continued and enforced the repression of women which may have started with Gods curse to make childbirth painful...presuming one believes that story literally.... <BR> <BR>in reality, the ancient mistaken belief that a man&#39;s semen contained &#34;seeds&#34;, and the only reason for a woman was to cook, clean, and be an &#34;oven&#34; for those seeds.....may have been the beginning or the repression. <BR> <BR>and any woman would do to incubate a mans seed...even a slave girl &#40;Haggar&#41;,  or virgins from a defeated enemy... <BR>with the ancients not understanding how the females would be providing half the genetics, which would dilute their family bloodline&#39;s &#34;uniqueness&#34;. <BR> <BR>good news?  today.... <BR>&#34;you&#39;ve come a long way, Baby&#34;.... <BR> <BR>and now women can do almost anything men can do  <BR> <BR>and it&#39;s never too late for you to get started!!! <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/messages/6/2052.jpg" alt="">


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