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<b><font color="0000ff">When he died, He was touched before His final ascension to heaven by Thomas.</font></b> <BR> <BR>Sorry, the text doesn't say that. It only says that Jesus asked him to look and touch. The text DOES NOT SAY that Thomas touched him. <BR> <BR>If it was so important, why did none of the other NT writers mention it? In fact, there are so many differences, contradictions, and unbelievable "facts" written in the NT, that it is impossible to believe that all could possibly have occurred, especially as described.
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Why does each author in the Bible tell the story the same way, with the same words, as dictated from God, eh??? Because they are individuals and it wasn't dictated. Elaine study just a few that believe in the Bible and you will get answers to your questions.
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Since its the Word of God, I assume God doesn't have his story straight.
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WRONG, you are reading it wrong, no discernment.
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<font color="0000ff">... no discernment.</font> <BR> <BR>Which is weasel for "no apologetics". <BR> <BR>For 1600 years it was claimed that these were exactly how the world worked. Disbelieve on the pain of death. Now, when it is proven to everyone except those in insane asylums that it is blatantly false you guys make up ad hoc reasons for why it was just poetry or the best words available at the time. <BR> <BR>That is completely dishonest, i.e. Lying for Jesus.
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<b><font color="0000ff">Why does each author in the Bible tell the story the same way, with the same words? </font></b> <BR> <BR>John is the only writer who speaks of Thomas asking for "proof" of Jesus. <BR> <BR>Each gospel writer tells some, but different stories, so they are not all alike at all. Evidently, you haven't even read the Gospels or you would know this.
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Elained the sentence should start out: <BR> <BR><b><font color="0000ff">Why doesn't each author in the Bible tell... <BR></font></b>
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Too bad. I copied it exactly as you wrote it. <BR>Too bad your grammar is so poor.
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Fine, make up whatever you want based on whatever you want, I think that is what has been going on with you anyway. <img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif" border=0> Respectfully.
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<img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/messages/120/1063.jpg" alt="">... <BR> <BR>respectfully, of course!!!!!
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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John, is that as kind as you get??? <BR> <BR><img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/kiss.gif" border=0>
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when you drop your baiting of everybody, especially Elaine....things could get better. <BR> <BR>otherwise, one no longer needs to wonder why you even admit you are unwelcome elsewhere. <BR> <BR>I bet you could give up the saracasm and the baiting of everybody and we could live happily ever after.
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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TTTHTFAL
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lets try one last time.... <BR>lets read the beatitudes.... <BR>there are the best of Christianity.....and nobody should argue about these, right? <BR> <BR><font color="0000ff">(Blessed are the peacemakers, <BR>for they shall be called children of God.</font> <BR> <BR>that's the one I offer to Bob to diffuse the current situation.... <BR> <BR>here are the rest, according to Matt: <BR> <BR>KJV) Matthew 5:1 <BR><font color="ff6000">And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, <BR> <BR>...3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. <BR> <BR>...4 Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. <BR> <BR>...5 Blessed [are] the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. <BR> <BR>...6 Blessed [are] they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. <BR> <BR>...7 Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. <BR> <BR>...8 Blessed [are] the pure in heart: for they shall see God. <BR> <BR>...9 Blessed [are] the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. <BR> <BR>...10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. <BR> <BR>...11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.</font> <BR> <BR>see,bob? there's hope for everybody!!! <BR> <BR>or in Luke 6.... <BR> <BR>17 <font color="ff6000">And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases; 18 And they that were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed. 19 And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed [them] all. 20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed [be ye] poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. </font> etc.... <BR> <BR>see? the meek will inherit the earth...and peacemakers are to be blessed. <BR> <BR>lets do it..... <BR> <BR>only two problems: <BR>not everybody wants to be peaceful, <BR> <BR>and <BR> <BR>the story, unfortunately as usual, is a bit confused: <BR> <BR>fromMatt: <BR>Matthew 5:1 <BR><font color="ff6000">And seeing the multitudes, ... <BR><b><i>he went <font size="+2">up</font> into a mountain:</i></b></font> <BR> <BR>while according to Luke: <BR><font color="ff6000">And he came <font size="+2">down</font> with them, and <BR><b><i>stood in the plain,</i></b></font> <BR> <BR>oh, well.....
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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John, until you are consistent, TTTHTFAL. Who put you incharge of Elaine's PR campaign, she is a big girl. Has and will speak for herself, I would be concerned with your record and how it stacks up. EH???
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good bye, Bob....you are in the process of ruining a great opportunity for us to learn from each other. <BR> <BR>I for one am done conversing with you.
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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Read the Beatitudes and reflect in your conversation here respect for peace, which has not been the case, even in the response by you in your last post. Who is missing what opportunity will become evident, I am sure.
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<font color="0000ff">Read the Beatitudes and reflect in your conversation here respect for peace....</font> <BR> <BR>Bob, from your very first post to me on Feb 5, 2006 you were hostile and sarcastic. <BR> <BR>You are a follower of tribal christianity, not a follower of the teachings of Jesus, The Christ.
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<font color="0000ff">I for one am done conversing with you.</font> <BR> <BR>John, <BR> <BR>Count me as seconding your decision. <BR> <BR>Trying to have an adult conversation with Bob seems to be like voluntarily going to the insane asylum to discuss reality with an obsessive compulsive, manic depressive, delusional sufferer of schizophrenia. On top of that the person you are volunteering to debate has the morals, ethics, and social skills of an Afghan member of the Taliban. <BR> <BR>Even though I debate Bob for the benefit of the lurkers the repetitiveness of the stupidity from him becomes boring fairly quickly. <BR> <BR>I'll check back in August.
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You have misstate your posting. Ron Corson was complaining about the atheistic bent on a lot of posts and the desire to create a thread where only those that did not have a common trust in the Bible aas inspired. You as I recall were part of Ron's frustration, but it was hardly your first post as I recall.
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<font color="0000ff">... but it was hardly your first post as I recall.</font> <BR> <BR>Add 'Reading Comprehension' to your list of FAIL. <BR> <BR>I didn't say it was MY first post. I said it was "your very first post to me".<blockquote>"Bob, from your very first post to me on Feb 5, 2006 you were hostile and sarcastic."</blockquote> <BR> <BR>I will expand my idea about your internet ethics which I put up yesterday: <BR> <BR>Bob's Internet Rule: <b>You have the right to remain silent. Anything you write may be misquoted and used against you.</b> <BR> <BR>Go back to school.
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The perception of people becomes their reality, Neal. Your reality is showing.
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no longer need to <font color="0000ff">go... to the insane asylum to discuss reality with an obsessive compulsive, manic depressive, delusional sufferer of schizophrenia.</font> <BR> <BR>don't be afraid to tell us what you REALLY mean!!!! <BR> <BR>enjoy your (probably well earned) "vacation"... <BR> <BR>if its NZ.... do you need somebody to carry your bags? I'd even enjoy a summer trying to scale a few of the fourteeners!!! <BR> <BR>my sister lives in Wyoming, and last time there, we horse packed into the Wind River Range... didn't see another person for a week... <BR> <BR>Imagine...a whole week with no compulsive, sarcastic, delusional accusations to worry about.... <BR> <BR>just bears the size of Buicks, and a wolverine who wanted our campsite, but no escapees from the insane asylum.
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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Thought the Great Blue Heron was in the backyard of a relative in Florida. Didn't you get that John? <BR> <BR>[And that capitalizatio problem, maybe Sylvan Learning can help with that bad habit?? ]
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