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#26 03-02-09 6:06 pm

lijhakim
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Re: This Forum is not Dying because of .....

Cadge, <BR>Take your dose of Lithium, and write that over!

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#27 03-02-09 7:04 pm

bob
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Hubert, I don&#39;t understand.  What are you saying to Cadge?  Did he go wrong someplace?  Please explain.

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#28 03-02-09 8:24 pm

cadge
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Hubb, take a trip to your closet. There&#39;s something you need to find there.

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#29 03-02-09 8:33 pm

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Perfect NCT presentation, is why Hubb went and took his lithium!!!<img src="http://www.atomorrow.net/discus/clipart/wink.gif" border=0> <BR> <BR>Covenant Theology does not believe in any discontinuity between Old and New Covenants. And Dispensationalists believe the Jewish Davidic and Palistine Covenants will be fulfilled, the land covenants, in the final eschatology.  <BR> <BR>Question, when the Jews failed in their unbelief, why would the Davidic and Palestine Covenants not be conditional and be spiritualized into Spiritual Israel? Why would God reward unbelief?  <BR> <BR>Britian gave land to Israel back in the 40s, and the USA has kept Israel armed to the teeth, but neither of those are fulfillments of Biblical texts or covenants. Romans 11 is conditional, broken branches can be grafted back in if they believe in the Messiah, but if not they will stay broken off from the vine or olive tree which ever analogy you like.

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#30 03-02-09 10:26 pm

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<b><font color="0000ff">He did not say that God will ask us if we understood the truth correctly in all points. No, He will evaluate us on how we treated our fellow humans.</font></b>  <BR> <BR>If only that is what the church taught AND lived! <BR>.

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#31 03-03-09 12:06 am

bob_2
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Who are you quoting, Elaine???

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#32 03-03-09 1:10 am

lijhakim
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Cadge, that was a cheap shot. Please forgive. I looked in my closet and found three pairs of shoes that needed to be polished! <BR> <BR>For Bob Shields, with your medical background you might have heard of Lithium to control mania. Cadge leveled his 8 gauge shotgun at the covenant and managed to hit everything all at once!!!

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#33 03-03-09 9:34 am

bob
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Pretty good synopsis, wouldn&#39;t you say?  I only saw one place that I would change.  The law was not learned while in Egypt.  It was learned in the desert. <BR> <BR>So, because Cadge&#39;s synopsis hit the complete target he is labeled a maniac?  I pray for more maniacs, yep, everyone should be one.

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#34 03-03-09 10:36 pm

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Are you sure you read, Bob? <BR> <BR>I was quoting your brother, above.

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#35 03-03-09 10:48 pm

bob_2
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Sorry it was right after my post and I saw nothing close by like your bold blue, yes I can read, that is why I asked who you were quoting???

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#36 03-20-09 5:31 am

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Bob Sands, it is interesting that you post a link to quango and Bob Brinsmead&#39;s old antisabbatarian material. Bob B. always had a gift of following his views to their logical conclusion. When he abandoned the Ten Commandments &#40;and the Sabbath&#41; in the Third Use of the Law he realized that that he had to abandon the Second Use as well. Then having abandoned the Second Use he realized that the idea of a forensic atonement had to be abandoned as well. So for a while he  embraced the Moral Influence view of salvation. Then in order to embrace the Moral Influence view, he realized that he had to abandon Paul as an authority so he ended up abandoning the entire bible as well. So now he is a Darwinian humanist having abandoned all revelation about God other than by mere human reasoning just like the French Revolution which worshipped the Goddess of Reason. By the way I am still in touch with my old friend and mentor and he is in my prayers every day without fail. I owe all of my theological training to him when I was in my twenties and thirties. If his message of the 1970&#39;s would have been accepted, Adventism would have taken the lead in the restoration  Protestant movement in its proclamation of Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia, Solo Christo, Sola Fide.


Bill Diehl, editor
Present Truth Magazine Online
www.PresentTruthMag.org

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#37 03-20-09 7:13 pm

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Bill, my family was &#34;persecuted&#34; by the church because of Brinsmead, and studying what he said. But before you throw him out with the bath water, lets talk about which phase of  RDB you are speaking of. This article is NCT as best I can see. Where he went after this, is not necessarily where everyone else will go or end up because they see his logic in this argument. That is argued by SDA all the time. &#34;Oh, that&#39;s RDB, you don&#39;t want to end up like him.&#34; Give people with critical thinking skills a break and realize that they can see where he goes and when.

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